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This isn’t a normal question so bear with me

I have an Australian Shepherd puppy that has taken a liking to my VNS. Every time when I pull the VNS out to use it she is right there wanting to play with it like it’s a toy.

Sydney now has started to bite at my shorts pocket where the VNS magnet is trying to get to it. I’m trying to figure out what to do as she’s so good with other things and listening when I say the word no.

I’m really not sure what to do on this one as the VNS magnet gets used… read more

August 10
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A MyEpilepsyTeam Member

She’s young, so stopping her habit now will be easier and the sooner the better. Once she’s bigger, it’ll be harder to stop her. The treats act like positive reinforcement and will keep her glued to the other side of u. If she doesn’t seem to be interested in them, make sure she can see u putting them in ur pocket and that will definitely get her attention and glued to ur other side. I train all mine to walk on the left side- like where a man should walk with u. This way, should something happen, they’re there to block u from falling into traffic, off a sidewalk or whatever. And should u get her certified as a therapy dog, she’s supposed to be on ur left so ur right side is closer to the things u need to get off a shelf or freezer or whatever. She sounds like a really good girl, just with a little quirk. Mine has lots of little quirks, but as soon as he alerts on me, he’s all business and work. I usually try putting him out right away so he’s not holding it in for hours after I have a seizure. And he goes straight out and back in within minutes just so I’m not alone and then he herds me to bed and will stay with me until I seize- and then he lays across me so I don’t hurt myself and cleans all that drool off my face so I don’t choke on it. And then he lays pushing against me to help keep me warm and slow down the chills I always get afterwards. Plus having him there when I’m coming too helps as well as I feel safer and protected with him by my side. Urs sounds like a sweet smart girl and should pick up the new rules quickly.

August 11
A MyEpilepsyTeam Member

Thanks Rhonda, I think I am going to have a small plastic bag of treats in my other pocket for this issue. I can easily take one out then pass along as we go through the training.

This is something new for Sydney, she’s only 12-weeks old so I would like for her to eventually learn why the VNS is being used so she can be more of assistance just not going down that path yet.

Thank you for the advice on this and I will definitely keep you posted as to how things are going.

August 10
A MyEpilepsyTeam Member

Try putting a few treats in ur other pocket and she should be more interested in them than ur vns device.
As for when ur using it, snap ur fingers or clap, say AT and raise ur finger in front of it. If u repeat it every time u see her getting excited that it’s coming out, she’ll learn that it’s not her toy or plaything. But u have to do it as soon as u see her starting to get excited about it. It sounds like she’s fixated on it; so u have to treat it like u would if she was trying to chase someone or something, or if she was about to chase another animal. It’s like she’s starting to go into the “red” zone where she won’t listen to u at all because all her attention is focused on ur vns so u have to snap her out of her excitement b4 she gets to that zone. It shouldn’t take long b4 she will totally ignore it as she will know that it’s not something she’s allowed to touch. That’s why u clap or snap ur fingers first- get her attention back on u b4 she’s totally fixated on ur vns. And the treats in ur pocket should keep her on the other side of u making her happy knowing that she’s gonna get a treat for staying on that side of u. I take in “red” zone dogs all the time and I’ve never been bitten and they are adoptable after i have them for a couple months. Plus they also get trained to alert when I’m gonna have a seizure, so they get adopted out quickly. If ur still having problems, let me know and I’ll give u some other tips. Have a great night!

August 10
MyEpilepsyTeam

What a fun (and important!) problem to solve — Sydney sounds like quite the character! Australian Shepherds are incredibly smart, which works in your favor here.

Since quick access to your VNS magnet is genuinely important for managing seizures, here are some practical ideas to consider:

- Wear the magnet on your wrist or Show Full Answer

What a fun (and important!) problem to solve — Sydney sounds like quite the character! Australian Shepherds are incredibly smart, which works in your favor here.

Since quick access to your VNS magnet is genuinely important for managing seizures, here are some practical ideas to consider:

- Wear the magnet on your wrist or belt clip rather than in a pocket — this keeps it accessible to you but less interesting to Sydney since it's not hidden
- Use a consistent "leave it" command — this is one of the most useful commands for smart breeds and can be trained relatively quickly
- Redirect with a decoy — keep a similar-sized toy nearby so Sydney has something acceptable to focus on
- Store the magnet in a small pouch worn under clothing when at home, so it's out of sight and less tempting

The most important thing is that nothing delays your ability to use the magnet when a seizure starts. Some people find wearing it as a bracelet (which is actually a recommended option) solves both the access and the puppy problem at once!

It may also be worth mentioning this to your neurologist — they may have heard creative solutions from other patients in similar situations.

August 10
A MyEpilepsyTeam Member

put it where he cant reach it

August 13

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